Tam60775 172 Tamiya Vought F4u-1a Corsair #60775 Kit Review

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota

Nose weights (annotation to mfgs)

Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:07 AM

This is a plea to kit manufacturers to be careful about nose weights in trike gear aircraft.  Most such kits do need nose weights to keep model from sitting back on the tail.

Some kits (but not many), include nicely molded metal weights cast to fit nicely into the nose. Tamiya kits are super skillful examples of this.  Others at to the lowest degree tell you how much weight is required.

I am working on a ane:32 kit.  The instructions didn't fifty-fifty mention that weight must be added. I knew it did, of course, only sure wondered how much.  Turned out it needed three ounces!

And so, please, mfgs, tell united states how much weight the kit needs.  If you really desire to proceeds rave reviews, include a cast weight that will fit.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    February 2014
  • From: Michigan

Posted by silentbob33 on Thursday, June ane, 2017 ix:17 AM

I'd like to second this Don. Last twelvemonth I built Tamiya's He-219 which included the weight and it was fantastic. Like you said, at the very least tell u.s. how much weight is needed.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    June 2004
  • From: 29° 58' Due north 95° 21' W

Posted past seasick on Th, June i, 2017 2:50 PM

Its a royal pain. As a matter of practice I add more weight than they say y'all need. I used to go out the nose cone off and the awning and piled dimes into the canopy until it stayed forwards to summate how much weight was needed. I use the low melting betoken metals that are made for model trains and cook them and pour the metal into the randome, cool it off and glue information technology on.  This method works best considering you can get plenty the near weight into the olfactory organ where it is furthest from the fulcrum of the model where information technology does the most expert.

Chasing the ultimate build.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    January 2015
  • From: Katy, TX

Posted by Aggieman on Thursday, June 1, 2017 2:52 PM

Absolutely. This should be a must for all such kits. I have had a couple of mishaps when attempting to guess at the weight needed to keep a trike on its gear, as my normal method is to use Bbs. This does not permit for trial and error, and involves installing the Bbs into place with CA. Which in my case a couple of times ran out from interior to exterior, causing a large mess and requiring lots of work to remove from outside surfaces and replacing lost details similar panel lines. This is pretty much a soapbox issue for me.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago

Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, June ane, 2017 three:48 PM

I agree 100%. I but finished a Hasegawa F-86 and the instructions indicated the amount of weight required to foreclose a tail-sitter. Terminal year I fabricated a Revell B-24 and the instructions did not betoken how much weight is required, so I had to guess. The biggest problem is that there is not enough infinite inside the nose of the airplane to add together plenty weight. I am now working on Revell's B-29, and in one case once again, there is no mention of nose weight. So I will have to guess. Fortunetly, I tin add together weights in the space behind the cockpit.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    May 2012
  • From: Pennsylvania

Posted by pilotjohn on Thursday, June 1, 2017 iv:10 PM

Completely agree.  Oh, and brand sure they leave enough infinite to put the weight into that expanse.

John

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    August 2016

Posted by Keyda81 on Th, June ane, 2017 4:12 PM

Agreed!  I tend to forget to add weight to the nose, I merely go far a groove of building.  And so far I've been pretty lucky and have been able to right the problem before I land upwards painting.  I've had one kit that included the nose weight with it.  It was an Eduard kit of 2 P-39's.  It made life and so much easier!

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    January 2006
  • From: Pineapple Country, Queensland, Commonwealth of australia

Posted past Wirraway on Monday, June 5, 2017 iii:fifty AM

Don- totally concur that this should exist included in the kit. I was trying to piece of work out how they would package it then that information technology wouldnt exercise damage to the other kit parts ? JohnnyK- you are going to pull your pilus out trying to notice space for the olfactory organ weight needed to keep that B29 on the deck- I know I did...

"Growing one-time is inevitable; growing upwardly is optional"

" A hobby should pass the time - not fill it"  -Norman Bates

GIF animations generator gifup.com

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago

Posted past JohnnyK on Mon, June 5, 2017 9:47 AM

Wirraway

Don- totally agree that this should be included in the kit. I was trying to work out how they would packet it so that it wouldnt practise impairment to the other kit parts ? JohnnyK- you lot are going to pull your hair out trying to find space for the nose weight needed to proceed that B29 on the deck- I know I did...

Well, I'g thinking if filling the infinite directly behing the Pilot'southward bulkhead with small line-fishing sinkers. I programme on putting them in a small plastic handbag and so glueing the bag in place.

Your comments and questions are ever welcome.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    Jan 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.

Posted by play a joke on on Monday, June 5, 2017 11:33 AM

Agree completely. Have only built 1 plane with weight included.

JimCaptain

 Main WIP:

   On the Bench:  1/48 Tamiya - Vought F4U-1A Corsair for Group Build 'Absent Friends' 50%                                                                   1/48 Encore Models - A-37B/OA-37B Dragonfly fifty%

I keep striking "escape", but I'm nevertheless here.

  • Answer

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina

Posted past Tojo72 on Monday, June five, 2017 12:00 PM

I enjoyed the Tamiya Me-262,they made the nose gear bay out of metal to provide the necessary weight

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    June 2004
  • From: 29° 58' North 95° 21' W

Posted by seasick on Monday, June 5, 2017 three:09 PM

Casting olfactory organ weights isn't to difficult. You exercise take to be careful.

Chasing the ultimate build.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    Feb 2014

Posted by haseren4 on Monday, June 5, 2017 seven:32 PM

I completely agree that something needs to be included listing how much weight is needed to keep the nose bicycle on the ground. At that place is a bullet nether the tail of my A-x so that information technology looks practiced up on my shelf.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    March 2003

Posted by rangerj on Mon, June 5, 2017 viii:54 PM

Ditto all of the above. I'll add to the chat and advise that the manufacturers include cast metal landing gear struts, particularly for aircraft that have delicate gear legs.

In some of these cases I distribute the weight. For example in a P-38 I would add together weight to the propeller spinners and or in the engines, if and so equipted, as well as in the nose. The ane/48th B-29 mentioned has four engines that can exist drilled out (cylinders) and filled with lead weight (e.chiliad. soldier). I have had more that ane tricycle gear model that has had the gear bend, bow, or collapse under the weight of the model. The aftermarket gear is a swell idea, but given the price of the kits these days the metal gear should exist included in the kit.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    September 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA

Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 12:03 PM

seasick

...I use the depression melting signal metals that are made for model trains and cook them and pour the metal into the randome, cool information technology off and gum information technology on...

Practice you mean, y'all pour the melted metal into the plastic part?  Even at a low melting betoken for a metal, I would think that that would melt the plastic.

I cast toy soldiers with white metal alloys--about 80% tin, and the remainder lead and antimony or bismuth.  Even that gets to effectually 450 degrees to melt.

The bigger the authorities, the smaller the citizen.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.

Posted past fox on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 half dozen:59 PM

Working at the demote this afternoon, I was looking through some parts boxes and found some quondam slot car wheels and tire combinations. Some of the wheels are 3/8" OD x 3/4" long. The tires were worn downward and hunks missing from wear. I took the tires off, filled the wheels with BB's, and topped it off with some Elmers Gum. Concluded upward with a couple of very squeamish 1/2oz weights that should fit in lots of places where needed for balance.

Hope this helps someone.

JimCaptain

 Main WIP:

   On the Bench:  ane/48 Tamiya - Vought F4U-1A Corsair for Group Build 'Absent Friends' 50%                                                                   1/48 Encore Models - A-37B/OA-37B Dragonfly l%

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    January 2015

Posted by BrandonD on Tuesday, June 6, 2017 ten:35 PM

Agreed. I almost always forget the nose weight if information technology isn't included in the instructions (before my about recent build, I could say ever - peradventure I've learned?).

Possibly I should do a post about the creative ways I've found of adding weights to an already-finished aircraft.

It's so much easier when the manufacturers remind you lot and include them. Three cheers to Tamiya and Hobby Boss for their He-162 and Me-262, respectively, for including them!

-BD-

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    September 2006
  • From: Bethlehem PA

Posted by the Baron on Wed, June 7, 2017 12:04 PM

Since we've turned a little towards methods of weighting a model, I've uses white glue and Bbs, and 2-office epoxy putty and BBs.

I also fabricated the mistake, having packed one shipping'south nose with putty and Bbs, of calculation a couple more Bbs and so securing them with CA glue.  I didn't think of information technology, but the glue apparently dissolved the putty enough for it to menstruum to places where I didn't desire it, till it and the gum both cured.  I had to drill out the hole for the propeller shaft, but it helped register the lesson.

The bigger the authorities, the smaller the citizen.

  • Respond

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota

Posted past Don Stauffer on Th, June eight, 2017 8:51 AM

The problem with bulletin board system is packing density. If I recollect my geometry right, the packing density (the fraction of the full volume) occupied by spheres is on effectually 75%, then you are getting less lead in a given volume than if you used solid pb.  With some aircraft with heavy tails, I accept found the internal volume left in the nose of the aircraft requires nigh solid steel if you lot use steel Bulletin board system- atomic number 82 might piece of work.

I congenital a cute Minicraft Cessna 172. Information technology had a very detailed engine.  The instructions said you had to chose- if you wanted to have the plane sit on its nosewheel without a tail brace, y'all had to forego the engine. If you wanted the engine in the olfactory organ, you had to have the tail brace.  I was able to cram in enough nose weight to get it to residuum on main gear, just if anyone bumped the table it would fall back on its tail!  The ideal kit would have had the engine bandage in metallic!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Answer

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert

Posted by stikpusher on Th, June eight, 2017 11:10 AM

I use lead birdshot and CA for my nose weights. #viii shot is not much larger than class sand and will make full most any desired space nicely. Sometimes you have to recall outside the box due to kit technology for location of your weight. Ready it in identify with gel CA then that does not run every where equally the sparse stuff can, and you're in business.

F is for Fire, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

Northward is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    January 2018
  • From: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

Posted by JNP on Saturday, March seven, 2020 ix:06 AM

After reviewing 20 replies in FSM Forum I came to your reccomendation which seems to be very plausible. I will try this if I tin can find #8 bird shot somewhere. Amazone.com??? Edifice an Airfix 1:72 B-25C/D and instructions reccommend 25gms of weight in the nose. Proplem is that the buckshot I have is large with expressionless infinite resulting in inadequate weight in the small space. I have an electronic mail sent to aitfix asking for their reccommendations. Big problem for pocket-sized scale (1:72) Tricycle builds. Will post accrdingly.

JNP

  • Respond

Report Abuse

  • Fellow member since
    September 2012

Posted past GMorrison on Saturday, March 7, 2020 9:12 AM

I use 1/2" hex basics threaded onto a i" long bolt.

 Modeling is an alibi to purchase books.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    March 2005

Posted by philo426 on Saturday, March 7, 2020 9:29 AM

You can as well add weight to the engine nacelles

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    December 2002

Posted by 7474 on Mon, March 9, 2020 10:13 AM

I made molds to bandage weights for a lot of the models I have. Thinking of starting a small business doing this and making painting masks for airliners.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    Nov 2008
  • From: Hatboro, PA

Posted by Justinryan215 on Midweek, March xi, 2020 one:21 PM

guys....your answer lies in the Cubscouts Pinewood derby department of your local crafting stores!  Tungsten putty!  A weighted putty that is like to a cantankerous between Blu-tac poster putty and silly putty.  Information technology is moldable, and comes in ii oz packs....

"...failure to do annihilation because someone else can do ameliorate makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their round course, my feet no longer touch the World...

  • Answer

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    Jan 2013

Posted by seastallion53 on Midweek, March 11, 2020 5:30 PM

I bought a 500 count box of reloadable 9mm 115 gr.

bullets a long time ago to employ equally weight.

  • Reply

Report Abuse

  • Member since
    May 2016

Posted by B-36Andy on Thursday, March xix, 2020 7:00 PM

Bird shot works really well! I don't accept whatever at the moment but I do have lead buck shot. You can go this at a expert gun shop. I flatten mine out with a hammer and cut into bits with wire cutters.

I add weight to the outside of the nose with tape and record the plane together--just the main pieces. You can brand a couple of balace pylons to identify under each wing just forward of the primary gears. Then I add atomic number 82 $.25 to the tape on the outside of the olfactory organ till information technology sits correctly. So I add a trivial more weight for skilful luck!

Weight and balance are important to planes. The DC-2 had to fly with 2000lbs of sandbags in the tail for it to balace correct. When I flew gliders, I had to sit on a 25lb clamper of lead to get the ship to balance correctly!

  • Reply

Report Abuse

ramirezviscruend.blogspot.com

Source: https://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/175324.aspx

0 Response to "Tam60775 172 Tamiya Vought F4u-1a Corsair #60775 Kit Review"

Post a Comment

Iklan Atas Artikel

Iklan Tengah Artikel 1

Iklan Tengah Artikel 2

Iklan Bawah Artikel